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Title: His 'n' Hers 2.0 - Bar Italia Forum
Post by: Archive on Sep 02, 2006, 06:25 PM
Posted by Steve Devereux

Frisko2000 wrote:

after that Hardcore debate, i made an alternate version of the album with many of the substitutions suggested in the thread. but what about an undeniable classic like His N Hers? should Seconds have bumped out Happy Endings? Street Lites for Davids Last Summer? what about the unstoppable title track? should it have been the real anchor of the album?

what would your premium track listing look like? (i've got to think about mine...there was a lot of ace material back then...)
 

 
 
 
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Title: Re: His 'n' Hers 2.0 - Bar Italia Forum
Post by: Archive on Sep 02, 2006, 06:25 PM
Posted by PinkGlove

Ian wrote:

1. Lipgloss
2. Pink Glove
3. Acrylic Afternoons
4. Have You Seen Her Lately?
5. Babies
6. His 'n' Hers
7. Happy Endings
8. Do You Remember The First Time?
9. Seconds
10. Someone Like The Moon
11. Street Lites
12. David's Last Summer
 

 
 
 
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Title: Re: His 'n' Hers 2.0 - Bar Italia Forum
Post by: Archive on Sep 02, 2006, 06:25 PM
Posted by Eljim

Fuss Free wrote:

This was hard. There are so many good songs from this time period, and it's tempting to put all the uptempo pop songs together. But any good album needs a few slow songs. Otherwise all the songs just bleed together and start to sound the same after a few listens (see "Franz Ferdinand" for instance). So, with that in mind...

1. O.U.
2. Street Lites
3. Lipgloss
4. Have you Seen Her Lately
5. Babies
6. She's a Lady
7. Seconds
8. His n Hers
9. Pink Glove
10. Someone Like the Moon
11. Do You Remember the First Time

Mind you, Acrylic Afternoons would become one of the greatest b-sides ever.
 

 
 
 
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Title: Re: His 'n' Hers 2.0 - Bar Italia Forum
Post by: Archive on Sep 02, 2006, 06:25 PM
Posted by ArrGee

James wrote:

For me, His'N'Hers is all about Happy Endings and Have You Seen Her Lately?, so I'm happy with Ian's suggestion. Mind you, I'm quite keen on Joyriders and Deep Fried In Kelvin...
 

 
 
 
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Title: Re: His 'n' Hers 2.0 - Bar Italia Forum
Post by: Archive on Sep 02, 2006, 06:25 PM
Posted by DoubleCrown

pye wrote:

i wouldn't change it, everything from the his n hers era is perfect
 

 
 
 
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Title: Re: His 'n' Hers 2.0 - Bar Italia Forum
Post by: Archive on Sep 02, 2006, 06:25 PM
Posted by Jock Mooney

I probably wouldn't include stuff like Razzmatazz or O.U., which had been out for almost two years (and if Babies wasn't on the actual LP itself, I'd have had qualms about putting that in too)... I'd stick to substituting b-sides and unreleased songs of the period for stuff which did make the cut.

Off the top of my head, I'd put Joyriders and Happy Endings in the "reject" pile, and add in the title track (in place of Happy Endings) and Street Lites (as the penultimate track, going straight after Someone Like The Moon and to lead up to finish with before David's Last Summer - the two run together very well, albeit maybe a bit similar in length and timbre). I don't know if I'd bother replacing Joyriders at the beginning; Lipgloss is strong enough to carry the album as track 1.
 

 
 
 
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Title: Re: His 'n' Hers 2.0 - Bar Italia Forum
Post by: Archive on Sep 02, 2006, 06:25 PM
Posted by DoubleCrown

I'm not a fan of Have You Seen Her Lately or Happy Endings, I suppose the track His N Hers would be great on the album.
 

 
 
 
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Title: Re: His 'n' Hers 2.0 - Bar Italia Forum
Post by: Archive on Sep 02, 2006, 06:25 PM
Posted by andy

Wow, seconds is a great song!!!!

May be she was not on the final record cos of its alikeness with pink glove...

But i definitely luuuuve it!
 

 
 
 
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Title: Re: His 'n' Hers 2.0 - Bar Italia Forum
Post by: Archive on Sep 02, 2006, 06:25 PM
Posted by Eljim

Steve Devereux wrote:

I probably wouldn't include stuff like Razzmatazz or O.U., which had been out for almost two years (and if Babies wasn't on the actual LP itself, I'd have had qualms about putting that in too)...

Babies was on the CD not the LP (splitting hairs here!) and Razzmatazz was a hidden track on the US album.  She's a Lady, Pink Glove and Acrylic Afternoons are older songs even if they weren't released. They played them live back in 1991/1992, and it wouldn't surprise me if versions of these were recorded in the Gift days .  The newer tracks on His 'n' Hers like  DYRTFT?, LipGloss weren't played live until 1993.

I suspect that His 'n' Hers was written in two stages.  The first stage was the Gift part, and the second the Island part.  Maybe it would have been better to have had two proper albums at the time with the afore mentioned tracks + Sister's Clothes (another oldie) put on to Intro, and  His 'n' Hers, Seconds, You're a Nightmare and Street Lites put on His 'n' Hers 

Giving (ignore the track order) .....

Intro - Now this would be Pulp's greatest with this tracklisting!


His 'n' Hers


And the varied demos, like Watching Nicky could have been the B-sides.

Sorted, let's get the Tardis out.

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-- Edited by ArrGee at 14:47, 2006-10-26
 

 
 
 
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Title: Re: His 'n' Hers 2.0 - Bar Italia Forum
Post by: Archive on Sep 02, 2006, 06:25 PM
Posted by DoubleCrown

Not much love for Joyriders and Happy Endings, it seems. Strange - they're my faves...

Sean
 

 
 
 
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Title: Re: His 'n' Hers 2.0 - Bar Italia Forum
Post by: Archive on Sep 02, 2006, 06:25 PM
Posted by Mike

I fucking love Joyriders - the song that is, it rocks, and sounds like early Suede, which is a good thing.

You can keep Happy Endings though, it reminds me of "The universal" by Blur, who I hate, fair enough they ripped it off, but still it ruins the song for me.

 

 
 
 
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Title: Re: His 'n' Hers 2.0 - Bar Italia Forum
Post by: Archive on Sep 02, 2006, 06:25 PM
Posted by Eljim

Makes sense - didn't immediately make the Universal/Happy Endings connection, but yeah, I can see it. I like The Universal though.... I have to say, I think I like the live version of Happy Endings from Auto 2002 better with the steel/slide guitar - too bad they didn't rerecord that in the studio that way.

Sean
 

 
 
 
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Title: Re: His 'n' Hers 2.0 - Bar Italia Forum
Post by: Archive on Sep 02, 2006, 06:25 PM
Posted by Pip

ripped off happy endings? cooome on, no way those songs are similar.

i love both, sorry, nothing even close to being the same. just them being two epics dont mean one ripped the other one off.

 

 
 
 
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