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Posted by Mike
CD Wow has cover art and a release date of Oct. 23 for the Peel Sessions disc.

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Posted by Eamonn
Cool - can someone enlarge it - I can't make out the small print.
 

 
 
 
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Posted by Eamonn
My, it is a night for Pulp discoveries - it seems amazon has the tracklistings:

The 1981 session is included - hurrah! No more does it have to buried on an old cassette. And as expected the second cd is fleshed out with sets from JP's 60th birthday bash, the Birmingham Academy gig from the WLL tour and something else which I can't remember and the labs are closing here and i'm off to the college bar...

Oh and this Pink Glove version is the definitive one!

Disc: 1 1. Turkey Mambo Momma 2. Please Don't Worry 3. Wishful Thinking 4. Refuse To Be Blind 5. Pink Glove 6. You're A Nightmare 7. Acrylic Afternoons 8. Underwear 9. Common People 10. Pencil Skirt 11. Sunrise 12. Weeds 13. I Love Life 14. Duck Diving
Disc: 2 1. Theme From Peter Gunn 2. Sorted For E's And Wizz 3. Help The Aged 4. This Is Hardcore 5. Sunrise 6. Mile End 7. Do You Remember The First Time 8. Babies 9. Weeds 10. Weeds II (The Origin Of The Species) 11. Fear 12. Trees 13. I Love Life 14. Party Hard 15. Common People

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Posted by Mike
Where did you get that? I couldn't find it on Amazon UK or US?

Looks great, though. Good detective work, there!
 

 
 
 
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Posted by Eamonn
Here... I didn't see it at first either.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Complete-Peel-Sessions-Pulp/dp/tracks/B000HKDBFO/ref=dp_tracks_all_1/026-2370121-1698020?ie=UTF8#disc_1

 

 
 
 
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Posted by Mike
Cool. Thanks.

That track listing reminds me -- I always wondered why they didn't do a Peel Session for TIH.
 

 
 
 
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Posted by Eamonn
Here's a bigger image

 

 

I quite like the design, the play on the classic Pulp logo used for Peel a fairly straightforward piece of thinking. Mr Senior fairly prominent (as he should be) with the three midgets squeezed into the middle.

The best Pulp group-shots are usually b/w aswell I find, particularly with Senior and Mackey's lacquered hair and JC and Doyle's retro-fashion looks.

 

 
 
 
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Posted by Wickerman
I agree with the fact that all 6 of them should be on the cover, but they could have used a far better picture.
 

 
 
 
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Posted by Steve Devereux
Fuck yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Bit confused by "Please Don't Worry" sounding a bit strange on that sample, but conversely "Refuse To Be Blind" sounds immense. Why is this even coming out? Who cares? Fantastic.

Might have to delay the relaunch of the site to take all of this into consideration, mind. Proper releases for the '81 tracks, Duck Diving, Peter Gunn etc... messing up my site, they are. Good good good.

 I wonder if there'll be a Black Session/French radio compilation to go with it someday?
 

 
 
 
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Posted by ArrGee
For only £8.45 @ Foxy

Listen here (soon)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/johnpeel/artists/p/pulp/

Where are these from?

6. Mile End 7. Do You Remember The First Time 8. Babies

Otherwise I guess it breaks down as

07/11/1981 - Pulp

• TX - 18/11/1981
  
• Producer - Dale Griffin
  
• Engineer - Peter Watts
  
• Studio - Maida Vale 4

1. Turkey Mambo Momma 2. Please Don't Worry 3. Wishful Thinking 4. Refuse To Be Blind

07/02/1993 - Pulp

• TX - 05/03/1993
  
• Producer - Mike Engles
  
• Engineer - M Engles/S Askew
  
• Studio - Maida Vale 4

5. Pink Glove 6. You're A Nightmare 7. Acrylic Afternoons

09/09/1994 - Pulp

• TX - 22/10/1994
  
• Producer - Dave Dade
  
• Engineer - Kevin Rumble
  
• Studio - Maida Vale 4 

 8. Underwear 9. Common People 10. Pencil Skirt

12/08/2001 - Pulp

• TX -
  
• Producer - Mike Engles
  
• Studio - Maida Vale 4

11. Sunrise 12. Weeds 13. I Love Life 14. Duck Diving

11/10/2001 - Pulp

• TX - 11/10/2001
  
• Producer - Sam Cunningham
  
• Engineer - George Thomas
  
• Studio - Kings College

1. Theme From Peter Gunn 2. Sorted For E's And Wizz 3. Help The Aged 4. This Is Hardcore 5. Sunrise

31/10/2001 - Pulp  (incomplete, but hey!)

• TX - 31/10/2001
  
• Producer - Andy Rogers
  
• Engineer - Simon Askew
  
• Studio - Birm Academy

9. Weeds 10. Weeds II (The Origin Of The Species) 11. Fear 12. Trees 13. I Love Life 14. Party Hard 15. Common People

 

 
 
 
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Posted by Will
ArrGee wrote:
Where are these from?

6. Mile End 7. Do You Remember The First Time 8. Babies

I think these where recorded at the Anson Rooms, Bristol as part of BBC Sound City '95.
Unlike the other tracks I don't think these were actually broadcast on the John Peel Show.

Full details:
Station: BBC Radio 1
Recorded: 21 April 1995
Transmitted: 21 April 1995
Location: Live at Anson Rooms, Bristol
 

 
 
 
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Posted by Eamonn
Thought I'd bump this up (seeing as it's out next week - or this Friday in Ireland) and also have a bit of a moan.

Pulp aren't the only artist to have their Ravenscroft recordings dusted down this month but the press for the Pulp Peel Sessions release has left me bewildered - from this month's music mags only The La's get their wares reviewed (in Q and Uncut), which is understandable I suppose given the maverick nature of their leader Lee Mavers and the band in general who disappeared after 'There She Goes' apart from John Power I suppose who went on to fron Cast, but I digress. Even the ads for the Peel Sessions have Pulp lumped together, sharing half a page with no-marks like Gene and The House Of Love but PJ Harvey gets half the page to herself, and hers is only a 12-track 1CD affair.

The La's and PJ Harvey more important (bigger?) than Pulp?

 

 
 
 
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Posted by Mike
Will wrote:
ArrGee wrote:
Where are these from?

6. Mile End 7. Do You Remember The First Time 8. Babies

I think these where recorded at the Anson Rooms, Bristol as part of BBC Sound City '95.
Unlike the other tracks I don't think these were actually broadcast on the John Peel Show.

Full details:
Station: BBC Radio 1
Recorded: 21 April 1995
Transmitted: 21 April 1995
Location: Live at Anson Rooms, Bristol

I think I might have an MP3 of the version of "Babies." JC mentions something about Bristol, I think. There's a great bit, where you can hear him mess around with opening riff, someone in the crowd shouts, "Put it [the guitar] down, you know you can't play. Jarvis responds: "I can play, actually. I'm fonking brilliant, actually." Great stuff. Does anyone know if this is the same gig?

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Posted by Will
Mike wrote:
I think I might have an MP3 of the version of "Babies." JC mentions something about Bristol, I think. There's a great bit, where you can hear him mess around with opening riff, someone in the crowd shouts, "Put it [the guitar] down, you know you can't play. Jarvis responds: "I can play, actually. I'm fonking brilliant, actually." Great stuff. Does anyone know if this is the same gig?

It is the same. And that is an amusing bit of dialogue, though I reckon it will be edited out on the CD.
 

 
 
 
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Posted by ArrGee
http://www.hmv.co.uk/hmvweb/simpleSearch.do?pGroupID=1&simpleSearchString=pulp&primaryID=1&btnSubmitSearch.x=8&btnSubmitSearch.y=12

Think I will order this tomorrow, might get another 20% off !   Just wondering about getting the reissues as well, but finding it hard to justify even shelling out £30 for an alum's worth of stuff.  At times like this I should just have a list of records I want, and save myself trawling through.

 

This Friday and Saturday (20th / 21st October) HMV.co.uk is offering you a 20% online discount*. Just use the promotional code: SQ1515 to save 20% on thousands of CDs, DVDs, games and accessories (future releases are excluded and terms and conditions apply.)

This is a Friends-and-Family offer, so please forward to anyone you think would enjoy 20% off at HMV.co.uk. Remember it's only valid for two days.

 

 
 
 
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Posted by VoxPop
I was thinking of using that discount, but its a pre-order and will not be applicable. I did however go ahead and order, and the nice thing is I received and email confirming it has already been shipped....so i'll have it soon.

 

 
 
 
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Posted by Eljim
Will it be out on itunes? I hope so
 

 
 
 
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Posted by Fuss Free
"The La's and PJ Harvey more important (bigger?) than Pulp?"

I don't know anything about The La's other than that song "There She Goes", but I think it's safe to assume PJ Harvey is more important and/or bigger than Pulp. For instance, PJ Harvey has been on the cover of Rolling Stone, whereas, I don't think Pulp have ever even appeared in Rolling Stone outside the reviews section.
 

 
 
 
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Posted by Steve Devereux
Fuss Free wrote:
"The La's and PJ Harvey more important (bigger?) than Pulp?"

I don't know anything about The La's other than that song "There She Goes", but I think it's safe to assume PJ Harvey is more important and/or bigger than Pulp in America. For instance, PJ Harvey has been on the cover of Rolling Stone, whereas, I don't think Pulp have ever even appeared in Rolling Stone outside the reviews section.

Fixed that for you.

Anyway, this is out now, and I'm assuming some of us have got it (or already had it). What do we think, then?
 

 
 
 
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Posted by andy
it's ordered. i'll tell you in two weeks or so
 

 
 
 
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Posted by Fuss Free
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Posted by Eamonn
Picked up the album today, wanted to on Friday but with the money I had then it was either a choice of a bus-home (and the home-cooking and clothes-washing that goes with it) or the album...a no-brainer then!

Haven't had chance to listen to it yet fully, did go through the liner notes earlier. Nice little essay from Jarvis, mostly reminiscing on the debut session (though every 'Pulp Scrapbook' anorak on here will know most of the details he mentions) and a couple of group shots that I hadn't seen before - it's a b/w affair, the booklet. Can someone in the UK tell me what the price is in HMV or Virgin there, it cost €18 here in Virgin in Cork, a bit steep considering it's £9 online but for a double cd it's not overtly dear I suppose. Full review later.

 

 
 
 
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Posted by The Idiot
Steve Devereux wrote:
I'm assuming some of us have got it (or already had it). What do we think, then?

I think you'll have fun transcribing the extra lyrics on Pink Glove.
 

 
 
 
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Posted by Ian
I've not bought it yet but is it the version of 'Pink Glove' that goes something like "You had a friend called Heather, you never kissed her never"? If it is, then I transcribed it once. I'll see if I can dig up the transcription.
 

 
 
 
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Posted by Frisko2000
isn't that the version where jarvis forgets literally every line, "baby baby baby baby you know it!", etc.?
 

 
 
 
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Posted by Eljim
Just ordered it on CdWow...

Lookin' forward to hearing it!!!
 

 
 
 
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Posted by Pye
Frisko2000 wrote:

 isn't that the version where jarvis forgets literally every line, "baby baby baby baby you know it!", etc.?

no its not, but i like that one. I bought the peel album today and i love it, i like common people at the end of cd 2, "lets get a fooking vibe going" i think jarvis says after telling someone to turn the stage speakers up
 

 
 
 
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Posted by ArrGee
Eamonn wrote:

 

Haven't had chance to listen to it yet fully, did go through the liner notes earlier. Nice little essay from Jarvis, mostly reminiscing on the debut session

Can someone in the UK tell me what the price is in HMV or Virgin there, it cost €18 here in Virgin in Cork, a bit steep considering it's £9 online but for a double cd it's not overtly dear I suppose. Full review later.


Much the same here, the packaging is really cool, giving it a hybrid His 'n' Hers/Different Class package.  Just loaded it up on my Mp3 player, along with Jarvis, so should get to hear it in next few days.

Didn't see price in stores, but got it for £7.99 from hmv.co.uk which is a bargain.

Likewise proper review to follow, but I don't expect to be disappointed as I have heard most of it!

 

 
 
 
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Posted by ArrGee
Listened to the first CD, and it is very good.

The first four tracks, though not the Pulp I know and love, are very listenable and coming on the back of listening to Jarvis, energetic and tuneful.  Lyrically, not too interesting, but it made me wonder about other pre-It material and the record that could have been prior to It.

The next two sessions (His 'n' Hers/DC) both present the songs (bar Underwear) in an embroynic less polished form that those that made the albums, and in the case of Pink Glove, a far better result.  Common People lacks many of the vocal inflections that make the song so good in its final form.

The We Love Life sessions are the most polished and suggest they were recorded after the album was made with precious little variation from the album.  However, there is Duck Diving!  This is a long track on Cocker's reluctance to dive with his glasses on, yet duck diving to fetch a can from the bottom of the water.  Shades of David's Last Summer, and though you can drift away from it it's quite a compelling track.

Just listened to Peter Gunn/Sorted/Help The Aged on Disc 2, which are live versions.  Nothing too spectacular on their own (though Aged is a better song outside the studio), but I have a whole disc of live Pulp to listened to this evening.  Bliss.

 

 

 
 
 
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Posted by Pip
ArrGee wrote:



Duck Diving!  This is a long track on Cocker's reluctance to dive with his glasses on, yet duck diving to fetch a can from the bottom of the water.


It's not about Jarvis at all, it's actually a short story by Philippa Pearce called 'Return To Air' that Jarvis spotted in a 1971 English Project Stage 1 text book. Pearce originally wrote the story for the BBC School Broadcasting series Over To You in 1964.

*takes off geek hat*

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Posted by Mike
Wanted to bump this up, because I finally got this CD. (For some reason, it took CDWow almost two months to acquire a copy. And I'd been really happy with them prior to this.)

 

Holy shit, that "Pink Glove" is awesome! Also, though I've had it for years, the 40 years in broadcasting version of "Help the Aged" is my favorite rendition.

 

 
 
 
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Posted by Pip
Mike wrote:

 

Wanted to bump this up, because I finally got this CD. (For some reason, it took CDWow almost two months to acquire a copy. And I'd been really happy with them prior to this.)


That's very odd, I ordered mine from them and it arrived a few days after the release date
 

 
 
 
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Posted by Mike
I wonder if it was because I ordered it from the U.S. site.
 

 
 
 
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Posted by Wickerman
It's a great album. I like the second cd the most.
 

 
 
 
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Posted by ArrGee
I think the versions of many tracks, especially Pink Glove, Sunrise and Help the Aged are superior to the album versions.  The best Pulp retrospective of all, ahead of Hits.

My only quibble (and this is just greed) is they didn't have an additional CD with the entire Birmingham Academy gig and started with some Glastonbury tracks on the second CD.  I suppose it's too much to hope for a legit release of Carry on Camping (with the 1994 set as well )

 

 
 
 
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Posted by annsaphone
anyone else loving the very first pulp session 'refuse to be blind' for example - or am i the only one? can't stop listening to it, it's brilliant they released this!
 

 
 
 
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Posted by guess who
I love it.

Especially Refuse..., Please Don't Worry and Wishful Thinking, aaah. What a great stuff!

 

 
 
 
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Posted by ArrGee
annsaphone wrote:

 anyone else loving the very first pulp session 'refuse to be blind' for example - or am i the only one? can't stop listening to it, it's brilliant they released this!

I love it all from Turkey Mambo Mama through Duck Diving to the final revamped Common People.  Was listening to Mile End this morning as the tube stopped at Mile End  (I didn't plan that, just happened). 
 

 
 
 
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