I friggin' LOVE "It's a Dirty World"! PLUS my ideal 'Hardcore tracklist. - Bar Italia Forum

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Posted by Jock Mooney
This track, "It's a Dirty World", is fantastic. It frankly beggars belief that it did not make it onto the album proper, but there you go.

Listening to This is Hardcore as a vague new comer to it, and having the benefit of hearing the new demo tracks etc, I have come up with what i would consider as a wonderful compilation to consider putting together and listening to what could have been - I understand Jarvis's motives for making a darker less commercial album, but this one is frankly miles better than the official one (in my view)....

• COCAINE SOCIALISM
• THE FEAR
• HELP THE AGED
• THIS IS HARDCORE
• A LITTLE SOUL
• PARTY HARD
• IT'S A DIRTY WORLD
• DISHES
• STREET OPERATOR
• I'M A MAN
• GLORY DAYS

... Some may think its a bit odd to have both "Cocaine.." and "Glory Days" on the same compilation, but I like aping that kind of "part 1" and "part 2" thing that Bowie did with "It's no Game" on Scary Monsters - i like the kind of bleak faux optimism that is "Glory Days" after the scorning "Cocaine Socialsim" ending the album with a feeling that most of the UK's inhabitants don't really have a clue or give a toss about whats going on - i also like the idea of Jarvis singing the same tune but with a completely different sentiment.

Dropping "Seductive Barry" and "The Day After.." takes some weight off things,  and the rest that I have omitted is hardly, in my view, essential Pulp.

 

What do you think?

 

 

 

 
 
 
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Posted by Wickerman
It's A Dirty World and Street Operator are class. Great tracks!

The Fear
Dishes
Help The Aged
Seductive Barry
This Is Hardcore
It's A Dirty World
Party Hard
A Little Soul
Street Operator
Ladies Man
Glory Days
Like A Friend
The Day After The Revolution
 

 
 
 
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Posted by PinkGlove
Th Fear would still have to be the opening track for me, and I don't think I'd put help the Aged and This is Hardcore one after the other...I'm also quite a fan of Sylvia and I see that isn't there.
 

 
 
 
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Posted by Mike
I like but don't love "Dirty World." I do love your idea of having both "Cocaine Socialism" AND "Glory Days" on the album.

I guess my ideal Hardcore tracklist would also involve replacing "TV Movie" and "Seductive Barry" with "Ladies' Man" and "The Professional."

 

 
 
 
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Posted by James
I quite like that list, but I wouldn't personally keep A Little Soul. Maybe Can I Have My Balls Back Please?

Do agree with the initial sentiment that Dirty World is bloody ace. Infact, I reckon it wipes the floor with half the album (at least).

 

 
 
 
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Posted by zonko
This is quite interesting: http://www.stylusmagazine.com/articles/playing_god/pulp-this-is-hardcore.htm

 

 
 
 
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Posted by andy
everybody's entitled to their opinion, but to me, the fear is the only opener.... you can argue about the rest, but the guy got it wrong with that one. and the professionnal is so not an opener. what a weird thought.
 

 
 
 
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Posted by Steve Devereux
zonko wrote:

This is quite interesting: http://www.stylusmagazine.com/articles/playing_god/pulp-this-is-hardcore.htm


As written by Ed Okulicz, a long-time Bar Italia contributor.
 

 
 
 
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Posted by edwardo
Why yes, that's me all right.

It's not my _ideal_ tracklisting, it was an attempt to balance the continuity/themes of the record as people assumed, with what I thought was a good tracklisting for a pop fan.

If I were making it for myself, I would have included "Cocaine Socialism" instead of "Glory Days", not got rid of "Sylvia", and now, I'd definitely include "It's A Dirty World" somewhere as that's just class.
 

 
 
 
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Posted by Ian
My ideal tracklisting:

1. The Fear
2. Dishes
3. Party Hard
4. Help the Aged
5. This is Hardcore
6. I’m a Man
7. Seductive Barry
8. The Professional
9. Street Operator
10. It's a Dirty World
11. Cocaine Socialism
12. The Day After the Revolution

As you can see, I have not included TV Movie or A Little Soul because they are, uh, how can I put it? Crap. Of course, that's my opinion but listen to The Fear or It's a Dirty World then these two, there's two levels of quality. It's all very well banging a couple of tracks onto albums to fill them up, but only when the fillers are good.

I've kept the first five the same because, on the original, the first five songs were great then the quality took a nosedive. So I'm not fixing what isn't broken.

Side B would sound great starting with the lengthy Seductive Barry and certainly sets the mood for the others. Street Operator should have been on the album and I've included Cocaine Socialism as opposed to Glory Days, simply because it is much better. Glory Days sounds like Jarvis had already done hundreds of vocal takes and was getting a bit bored. Oh well. The Day After the Revolution is a great closer.
 

 
 
 
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Posted by KevInSweden
It's a dirty world is worth the price of the albums alone, pure brilliance that was left off the album and didn't even get B-side status, so thank f*** for the re-releases eh.

I'm in love with this song, the lyrics, and the wonderful melody that flows throughout it.

Personally the tracklisting by Jock Mooney would be nearest to my ideal version of This Is Hardcore. Ah well, at least nowadays you can do that without problems, so ain't a major deal thankfully.

-- Edited by KevInSweden at 15:16, 2006-10-06
 

 
 
 
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Posted by Fuss Free
I don't like it. But I've said that before.

"Don't Lose It" is growing on me though.
 

 
 
 
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Posted by andy
not too fond of it either to be honest. would have been good on bside but not more.

still sound bad to me most of the time, probably the most unpulp song of their catalogue.

 

 
 
 
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