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Posted by saw119
FWIW

https://www.festivalawards.com/winners-2025/

Best headline performance at a Festival 2025. 

 

 
 
 
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Posted by Eamonn
They, and casuals may not agree, but I'm sure they'll be happy to hear it!
 

 
 
 
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Posted by saw119
I know the performance has been a bit controversial in some quarters but my partner and I hadca great time and really enjoyed.
 

 
 
 
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Posted by ArrGee
saw119 wrote:
I know the performance has been a bit controversial in some quarters but my partner and I hadca great time and really enjoyed.

 Why was it controversial?

 

 
 
 
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Posted by saw119
ArrGee wrote:saw119 wrote:
I know the performance has been a bit controversial in some quarters but my partner and I hadca great time and really enjoyed.

 Why was it controversial?

 I suppose I don't really mean controversial in a serious way. When I saw Mark gave his talk he reiterated his opinion that Tramlines was not a good performance but a lot of people in the audience disagreed quite vocally. I read a lot of FB posts the day after that were less than glowing about it as well. 

 

 
 
 
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Posted by Eamonn
Well Deep Fried In Kelvin was apparently rehearsed so it could have evenl been worse for the majority and even better for 117 of us Hardcore.
 

 
 
 
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Posted by Frisko2000
They rehearsed Deep Fried?? 

 

 
 
 
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Posted by Eamonn
According to Nick on that boat talk a week ago or so, yeah! Unless he was messin'... but apparently they soundchecked approx 70 songs over the last tour. And Mark did mention they gave It's A Dirty World a bash so it's not beyond the bounds they'd try something else rare.
 

 
 
 
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Posted by Frisko2000
They rehearsed Dirty World?? What else, Catcliffe??
 
 I missed this boat talk, apparently. Doesn't Mark hate Dirty World? I seem to recall a comment about there "not being a song there".
 
 As an aside, I'm convinced the band lurks this board.

-- Edited by Frisko2000 on Tuesday 16th of December 2025 01:57:25 PM
 

 
 
 
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Posted by andy
It's a Dirty World could have been a good TIH bside, nothing more. "not being a song there" is a bit harsh although it clearly did not belong on the record.
 

 
 
 
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Posted by Eamonn
I think Mark said he wasn't there, the day it was rehearsed!

But I disagree with both him and Andy. Owen Hatherley, in his book, Uncommon, put it best:

"As portraits of women go, the stoically suffering Sylvia ("Her beauty was her only crime" etc.) pales in comparison with the monstrous, charismatic protagonist of 'It's A Dirty World'; the most finely, precisely drawn female character in a ****er lyric since 1994. Inexplicably, this outrageously successful song, already given the full, claustrophobic 'grand guignol' Chris Thomas treatment, was held off This Is Hardcore at the last minute. It's a fabulous record and so much more likely than the album's apologies and fudges".

 

 
 
 
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Posted by Frisko2000
My memory is of Mark mentioning that Jarvis had gone off and done It's a Dirty World and the band hadn't got in there to work it up properly. And they weren't much interested in it since the front of the song is just tones. I'm possibly confused.

I would certainly take Dirty World over Sylvia for the album though. And would faint if it turned up in that Like a Friend slot at a show.
 

 
 
 
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Posted by Ian
Do Pulp have enough songs for an entire set about Sheffield? Let's see:

I Scrubbed the Crabs that Killed Sheffield

My Legendary Girlfriend (related to "Sheffield: Sex City")

Sheffield: Sex City

Babies

Inside Susan

His 'n' Hers (presumably the Brincliffe Oaks is a pub in Sheffield)

Deep Fried in Kelvin

David's Last Summer

Disco 2000

Catcliffe Shakedown

Wickerman

Last Day of the Miners Strike

Grown Ups

Hymn of the North

Hmmm, not quite. Some of these are only very loosely connected to Sheffield. They could pad it out a bit with some other songs such as "Blue Glow" and "Goodnight" that may be set in Sheffield.
 

 
 
 
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Posted by ArrGee
Ian wrote:
Do Pulp have enough songs for an entire set about Sheffield? Let's see:

Lyndhurst Grove?

I guess there is probably a London set, especially if solo material is thrown in

• Common People
• Sorted (Camden Town)
• Bar Italia
• Swanky Modes
• Mile End

for starters

 

 
 
 
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Posted by Ian
I thought Lyndhurst Grove was in London. The sleeve says "...following Susan from her Rotherham puberty through wild teen years in Sheffield to her eventual marriage and settling down somewhere on the outskirts of London".
 

 
 
 
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Posted by Eamonn
Yeah it is. ArrGee probably passed it while pissed, on the wrong bus home from seeing The Cult in 1989.
 

 
 
 
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